Several corporations have come out this week publicly blasting North Carolina’s passage of HB2 – decrying the “discrimination” and how the bill goes against their “fundamental belief in equality.”
Companies included in the public scolding include Red Hat, American Airlines, Apple and PayPal. Moreover, the High Point Market lamented that dozens of its customers have threatened not to attend its annual furniture trade show.
Hmmm, what do all these companies have in common? That’s right, these self-described believers in equality before the law have leveraged political favors to milk North Carolina taxpayers for millions in corporate welfare and crony carve-outs.
- Red Hat was awarded a corporate welfare package estimated at $20 million
- Apple was recipient of one of the state’s largest corporate welfare deals in history – with handouts estimated at the time to total $58 million in its first ten years
- American Airlines last year lobbied hard to preserve a major tax exemption that would save them millions
- PayPal accepted millions in taxpayer handouts when locating a new operations center in Charlotte
- the High Point Market has been receiving millions in taxpayer funds annually for a decade or more to subsidize its annual trade show
Oh yeah, the NBA is threatening to move the 2017 All-Star game scheduled for Charlotte, because HB 2 goes against the league’s “guiding principles of equality and mutual respect”. Let us not forget that the city of Charlotte milked taxpayers for more than a quarter of a billion dollars to fund the Bobcats/Hornets basketball arena. Does that sound like the NBA franchise desiring equal treatment, or special treatment? And what about the “mutual respect” to taxpayers being forced to finance the arena?
Its hard to take seriously these corporations claims to favor “equality” under the law when they are so quick to lobby for special treatment from government to gain a competitive edge. If they truly favored equal treatment, they would seek for all businesses to be treated the same. Instead, they favor highly unequal treatment when it comes to taxes and subsidies- to favor themselves of course.
Lonnie says
Brain,
What you’re saying is NC has spent tens of millions of taxpayer money to attract these major corporations, only to extreme right wing, theocratic bigots waste that investment. You let people like Franklin Graham hype an absolutely ignorant, misinformed narrative to bully a group already the target of much prejudice and discrimination. Why are the puppets, now holding political power in Raleigh, determined to govern as brown shirt authoritarians? Authoritarianism has been a consistent theme of the right wing, know nothing bullies, elected by gerrymandering and voter suppression. Teachers are going to be in very short supply because enrollment of new teachers in the NC Universities system is at it’s lowest point in history, with large percentage just a few years from retirement. Your people better figure out how to walk this back by educating those swayed to your side with fear, bigotry and lies. Government under the dysfunctional GOP is a disaster. Think about what current leading Republican candidates for president are campaigning on, pecker size, ugly wife vs nude wife, who will torture most, who will kill the most innocent Muslins or abuse their human rights. Damn you people are scary.
Larry says
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article64943682.html#storylink=cpy
This is a link to an article in Charlotte Observer on the person who was behind the Charlotte city council.
Lonnie says
Larry
Thank you for providing the link, which confirms my earlier comment, young people are much more at risk in fundamentalist church functions than in a unisex public restroom.
“A 2000 story in the Spartanburg Herald-Journal said Sevearance-Turner had been a youth minister at a church in Gaffney. A jury there found him guilty of fondling a 15-year-old teenage church member while the boy slept.”
When homosexuality is suppressed society is put at risk, heterosexuals find themselves in a relationship with a spouse trying to conform or sometimes hide their homosexuality. Many of these homosexuals are very homophobic because of fear of their own desires.
Mr. Chad Severance-Turner’s past has nothing to do with the merits of restroom accommodations and bigotry towards the LBGT community.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article64943682.html#storylink=cpy
Larry says
Larry says
March 29, 2016 at 5:40 PM
This is a nationwide poll that shows even 50% of Godless liberals don’t agree with this.
CBS News Poll: Transgender kids and school bathrooms
CBS/AP
As the issue of the rights of transgender people comes more to the foreground, schools across the U.S. have been confronted with a new issue: how to handle gender-specific bathrooms and locker rooms.
A state law passed in California allowing transgender students to use the bathroom of their choice, while some school districts in other parts of the country have been criticized for mandating that students use the facilities of the gender with which they were born.
Most Americans (59 percent) aren’t comfortable with the idea of transgender students picking which bathroom or locker room to use, and think they should use the facilities of the gender they were born as, while 26 percent think they should be allowed to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of their preferred gender.
Born this way: Stories of young transgender children
Women (at 29 percent) are slightly more receptive to the idea than men (23 percent).
But there are greater differences by age. Just 23 percent of Americans age 30 and older think transgender students should be able to pick which facilities to use, compared to 35 percent of Americans under 30.
There are political differences as well. Republicans (at 71 percent) are more likely than Democrats (56 percent) and independents (55 percent) to think transgender students should have to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of their birth gender, as are conservatives (69 percent) in comparison to liberals (50 percent) and moderates (55 percent).
CBS news poll
Larry says
Children are more at risk at churches sometimes because perverts know that is a good place to prey on them.
Lonnie says
Larry
You can add the Republican Party and Conservative organizations as a place for perverts to hide.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/dennis-hastert-court-hearing/
Larry says
There are freaks everywhere,Lonnie?What’s that got to do with what we are talking about?You are making my argument.I don’t want this idiot or you or any man in my wife,daughter,or granddaughters bathroom. The CBS poll shows that most people agree with me.People like me and people in the poll can punish these companies that are threatening North Carolina.I can guarantee that there are more perverts in the Democratic Party.
Lonnie says
Larry
You don’t do a poll on human rights or civil rights. Hell if you polled todays Conservatives they would still oppose integration, mixed marriages and may even support slavery. Transgender citizens need a place to pee, handicap people often need an assistant in the restrooms, an aging father man needs his daughter’s assistance, a young father may need to assist a sick teenage daughter, a young mother may need to help her nine year old son. Only perverts want to make going to use the rest room about sex. Conservatives need to grow up and be adults.
George says
This article is trying to compare apples with oranges. NCivitas writes as if they believe and/or hope their readers are not critical thinkers.
Larry says
That is a poll on men going into woman’s bathrooms.Nothing to do with civil rights.You libs try to make everything civil rights.Getting a little testy there Lonnie when you find out there are only 23 % sickos that side with you.George is more incoherent than you.Or is that you?All the restrooms like Krogers that I have seen are a one person at a time with a lock.Not like what you propose.
Ray says
Hopefully NC holds strong and calls some of these company’s bluffs. I’ve written to DirecTV indicating I’ll drop my NBA League Pass subscription (which I’ve had for 15 years) if the NBA takes action. The polling data shows voters support what NC has done, and those voters need to act as customers and let these companies know they’ll vote with their wallets.
Big Ed says
Geez! The facts bring out the uneducated to defend men in women’s locker rooms. Children’s safety is paramount. And those examples you cite, Lonnie, never were against the law.
Larry says
Lonnie,this is what happened to our economy.Not the Governor’s actions.It would be funny if it wasn’t true.
–
Subject: Fwd: Affordable Plumbing Act
Troy drives to President Obama’s new house, which is located in a very
exclusive, gated community near Chicago , where all the residents have a
net income of way more than $250,000 per year.
Troy arrives and takes his tools into the house. He is led to the guest
bathroom that contains the leaky pipe under the sink. Troy assesses the
problem and tells Obama that it’s an easy repair, that will take less
than 10 minutes. Obama asks Troy how much it will cost. Troy checks his
rate chart and says, “$9,500.”
“What?! $9,500?!” Obama asks, stunned, “But you said it’s an easy repair.
Michelle will kill me if I pay a plumber that much!”
Troy says, “Yes, but what I do is charge those who make more than
$250,000 per year a much higher amount so I can fix the plumbing of
poorer people for free. This has always been my philosophy. As a matter
of fact, I lobbied the Democrat Congress, who passed this philosophy into
law. Now all plumbers must do business this way. It’s known as the
‘Affordable Plumbing Act of 2014’. I’m surprised you haven’t heard of
it.”
In spite of that, Obama tells Troy there’s no way he’s paying that much
for a small plumbing repair, so Troy leaves. Obama spends the next hour
flipping through the phone book calling for another plumber, but he finds
that all other plumbing businesses in the area have gone out of business.
Not wanting to pay Troy ‘s price, Obama does nothing and the leak goes
un-repaired for several more days. A week later the leak is so bad
President Obama has had to put a bucket under the sink.
Michelle is not happy as she has Oprah and guests arriving the next
morning. The bucket fills up quickly and has to be emptied every hour,
and there’s a risk the room will flood, so Obama calls Troy and pleads
with him to return.
Troy goes back to Obama’s house, looks at the leaky pipe, checks his new
rate chart and says, “Let’s see, this will now cost you $21,000.”
Obama quickly fires back, “What? A few days ago you told me it would cost
$9,500!”
Troy explains, “Well, because of the ‘Affordable Plumbing Act,’ a lot
of wealthier people are learning how to maintain and take care of their
own plumbing, so there are fewer payers in the plumbing exchanges. As a
result, the price I have to charge wealthy people like you keeps rising.
Not only that, but for some reason the demand for plumbing work by those
who get it for free has skyrocketed! There’s a long waiting list of those
who need repairs, but the amount we get doesn’t cover our costs,
especially paperwork and record-keeping.
This unfortunately has put a lot of my fellow plumbers out of business,
they’re not being replaced, and nobody is going into the plumbing
business because they know they can’t make any money at it. I’m hurting
too, all thanks to greedy rich people like you who won’t pay their ‘fair
share’. On the other hand, why didn’t you buy plumbing insurance last
December? If you had bought plumbing insurance available under the
‘Affordable Plumbing Act,’ all this would have been covered by your
policy.”
“You mean I wouldn’t have to pay anything to have you fix my plumbing
problem?” asks Obama.
“Well, not exactly,” replies Troy . “You would have had to buy the
insurance before the deadline, which has passed now. And, because you’re
rich, you would have had to pay $34,000 in premiums, which would have
given you a ‘silver’ plan, and then, since this would have been your
first repair, you would have to pay up to the $21,000 deductible, and
anything over that would have a $7,500 co-pay, and then there’s the
mandatory maintenance program, which is covered up to 17.5%, so there are
some costs involved. Nothing is for free.”
“WHAT?!” exclaims Obama. “Why so much for a puny sink leak?!”
With a bland look, Troy replies, “Well, paperwork, mostly, like I said.
And the internal cost of the program itself. You don’t think a program of
this complexity and scope can run itself, do you? Besides, there are
millions of folks with lower incomes than you, even many in the ‘middle
class’, who qualify for subsidies that people like you must support.
That’s why they call it the ‘Affordable Plumbing Act’! Only people who
don’t make much money can get it. If you want affordable plumbing, you’ll
have to give away most of what you have accumulated and cut your and
Michelle’s income by about 90%. Then you can qualify to GET your ‘Fair
Share’ instead of GIVING it.”
“But who would pass a crazy act like the ‘Affordable Plumbing Act’?!”
exclaims the exasperated Obama.
After a sigh, Troy replies, “Congress … because they didn’t read it.”
This will help you understand Obamacare …. And here you have it, the
‘Affordable Plumbing Act of 201 5 ‘.
What a marvelous explanation……
>
Lonnie says
Right wing stradigist know Republicans risk losing political power this fall because of scandals and national presidential candidates acting much worst than elementary school bullies.
Conservatives must have a high turn out of evangelicals in the fall election to have any chance of holding political power even with gerrymandering and voter suppression. What better way to fire up evangelical than the reliable dog whistle of homophobia, bigotry and fear mongering against “Those people”( LBGT, Liberals, urban, non real Christians ).
The North Carolina Republicans are will to waste taxpayer money spent recruiting major corporations to create jobs in our state to hold their political power. Conservatives will destroy the NC economy, abuse civil rights, human rights, public education and North Carolina as a tourist destination to maintain their political power.
LW says
Right wing stradigist know Republicans risk losing political power this fall because of scandals and national presidential candidates acting much worst than elementary school bullies.
Conservatives must have a high turn out of evangelicals in the fall election to have any chance of holding political power even with gerrymandering and voter suppression. What better way to fire up evangelical than the reliable dog whistle of homophobia, bigotry and fear mongering against “Those people”( LBGT, Liberals, urban, non real Christians ).
The North Carolina Republicans are will to waste taxpayer money spent recruiting major corporations to create jobs in our state to hold their political power. Conservatives will destroy the NC economy, abuse civil rights, human rights, public education and North Carolina as a tourist destination to maintain their political power.
Larry says
We heard you the first time,Lonnie.Same old dribble.People are not going to vote for an old Soviet lover that calls himself a Socialist.Hillary will be in prison.No white person in their right mind will vote for a Democrat.They had to say they were sorry for saying”white lives matter”.I knew you had a stroke.
Lonnie says
Sorry about the double post, I was censored yesterday on a different thread.
Lonnie says
“When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”
Sinclair Lewis
BBJack says
Larry&Big Ed,
Lonnie is basically a “shill” stooge who the Watauga Democrat Party has appointed to put out drivel on the Civitas website. No meaningful ideas except to use the usual talking points if any responder puts up a post that is disagreed to by the Democrat LibTards.A member of the Democrat party in the High Country and designated photographer at all events. Wasting time responding to any post put up by Lonnie.
Puts up similar posts at the HighCoutryPress especially if Virginia Foxx has a piece put up on their website. A total shill on this website.
Larry says
BBJack,I know who he is and what he is.But,it’s so much fun making him look stupid.
Lonnie says
Big Ed, Larry,and BBJack
I see you folks are determined to take this discussion down the same path as Republican candidates for POTUS of petty personal attacks.
I don’t blame you because the moral high ground is not on your side, justice is not on your side, human rights and civil rights are not on your side and facts are not on your side. Personal attacks are all you have left.
Let me remind you of the issues you’ve avoided.
NC Republican politicians have passed a law, they cannot enforce just to pander to bigotry, ignorance and hate. The HB-2 will cost NC taxpayers thousands in legal fees to defend an unconstitutional bill that will be over turned in the courts. North Carolina small businesses will loose business as customers refuse to attend the NC Furniture market, Furniture manufacturing employees will loose jobs, Major league sports will avoid or move to less bigoted states, costing the NC economy more revenue.
NC could loose title 9 funding, if courts still on appeal rule against Virginia. “the threat of losing Title IX funds was real enough to convince authorities in Illinois and California to comply.”
The next issue are major corporation avoid locating in NC or moving out of NC.
This pandering HB-2 bill will be very expensive and serve no purpose.
Lonnie says
Larry
“BBJack,I know who he is and what he is.But,it’s so much fun making him look stupid.”
My objective is not to make you look foolish or stupid but to push back against bullies, bigot, greed, injustice, attacks on public educations, teachers, science and increasing authoritarianism.
Try staying with ideas and the issues.
Larry says
THE BEST SLAVE IS ONE WHO THINKS HE IS FREE…
Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today…….
Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals
Anyone out there think that this stuff isn’t happening today in the U.S.?
All eight rules are currently in play
.
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule.
Stalin described his converts as “Useful Idiots..”
The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control.
It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
If people can read this and still say everything is just fine… they are “useful idiots.
“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”This is the Democrats Godfather.
Larry says
This is Lonnie’s God.
THE BEST SLAVE IS ONE WHO THINKS HE IS FREE…
Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today…….
Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals
Anyone out there think that this stuff isn’t happening today in the U.S.?
All eight rules are currently in play
.
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule.
Stalin described his converts as “Useful Idiots..”
The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control.
It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
If people can read this and still say everything is just fine… they are “useful idiots.
“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”
Lonnie says
Larry
Don’t you ever get the least bit curious as to why conservative propaganda lies to you about community organizers Saul Alinsky?
“The above-quoted list of steps for “How to create a social state” is another example of a political attempt to tie the names of Saul Alinsky with those of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. But the list is not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, nor does it even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about “controlling health care” is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of “increasing the poverty level as high as possible” is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). ”
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp
BBJack says
Larry
If you want to see where Lonnie gets his marching orders,take a look at the bloq “Watauga Watch”. This vile,hateful of all non-Democrats bloq has about 100-folowers who are all Democrat socialist mostly in Wautauga County. Jerry Wayne feeds to Lonnie all of his talking points and there is even a link on the Watauga Democrats website. To indicate how wacho this crowd is, crazy Bernie Sanders was the top vote getter in the recent March 15 primary on the D ballot. Old Bernie beat Hillary Diane Rodham by over 50% mostly from the precints near to Boone center. Watauga County voters vote mostly for the little R’s whereas the students at AppState and the liberal professors who attempt to indoctrinate them all vote as Pam tells them to. A real bunch of liberal, progressives statist who also control Boone Town Council with all Democrat mayor and council. Back in December the town council approved spending about $35,000 of town’s money on a solar panel section on N Depot St that will also have a charging station for all of 8-Chevy volts and Nissan Leafs that are located in Watauga County. All eyewash and a waste of resources but makes them feel better about saving the earth. Lately one of the council, Lynne Mason owner of Lost Province Brewing will go “gender neautral” in the restrooms. Don’t know if they have a lock on door for the ladies room if the females want to have some privacy.
Lonnie says
BBJack
Let me see if I understand the charge you’re making.
1: Watauga County Democrats are hard working activist engaged in progressive ( Liberal ) politics?
2: Jerry Wayne Williamson writes a political Blog in opposition to most of what is posted on Civitas Institute’s extreme right wing blog? http://blog.wataugawatch.net
3: Pam’s Picks are well researched and a detailed accounts of all political candidates political and criminal history to better inform voters during elections? http://www.pamspicks.net
4: Pam Williamson and Watauga Democrats should not fight a rigged election process of voter suppression and gerrymandering by winning in court? http://www.hcpress.com/news/140372.html
You’re incorrect on Bernie’s win Watauga County, He won more than 2 to 1.
Larry says
BBJack,
That brewery will be a good test on how people take no locks on woman’s bathrooms.Maybe Loonie Lonnie will get clocked when he walks in on some old lady.Maybe Lynne Mason only has weirdo customers and it won’t hurt her business.I would like to be a fly on the wall when some tourist lady gets walked in on.I’am seeing some law suits on these businesses when some woman gets attacked by some molester.
Larry says
Snopes is run by a left wing idiot like you Lonnie.If you don’t believe it show me anything they have on that site that doesn’t jive with the lefties view.That ought to keep you busy for a few hours trying to find one.
Lonnie says
Larry
Truth, facts, justice, and reality all have a liberal bias.
Lonnie says
Why are the “Good People ” of Civitas Institute censoring some replies?
Lonnie says
BBJack
My first reply was blocked by the censor
Let me see if I understand the charge you’re making.
1: Watauga County Democrats are hard working activist engaged in progressive ( Liberal ) politics?
2: Jerry Wayne Williamson writes a political Blog in opposition to most of what is posted on Civitas Institute’s extreme right wing blog? http://blog.wataugawatch.net
3: Pam’s Picks are well researched and a detailed accounts of all political candidates political and criminal history to better inform voters during elections? http://www.pamspicks.net
4: Pam Williamson and Watauga Democrats should not fight a rigged election process of voter suppression and gerrymandering by winning in court? http://www.hcpress.com/news/140372.html
You’re incorrect on Bernie’s win Watauga County, He won more than 2 to 1.
Pinto says
Lonnie,
What you’re saying is NC has spent tens of millions of taxpayer money to attract these major corporations, only to allow the extreme left wing, gaystapo goose-stepper bigots who run those corporations spend it on enabling child molesters. You let crybullies like Dan Savage hype an absolutely retarded, fact-free narrative to bully decent people who are already the target of much blackmail and extortion from Commie-run hate groups like the Anti-Christian Litigation Unit. Why are the child molesters now holding political power in Charlotte determined to govern as genital-mutilating carpet-munching butt-bandit Stalinists? Commie fascism has been a consistent theme of the empty-skulled leftard crybullies, elected by gerrymandering and vote fraud.
We have way too many teachers molesting their students in schools because enrollment of sexual predators in the NC Universities system is at its highest point in history, with a huge percentage just a few months from invading the government brainwashing centers so euphemistically referred to as schools. Our people better figure out how to walk this child abuse back by driving out these parasites and child molesters seeking to indoctrinate our children with the gaystapo’s fascism, bigotry and lies. Government under you Stalin-sucking Traitorcrats was a total catastrophe. Think about what all the current leading Commie candidates for President all favor: crybullying, bathroom banditry, getting child rapists (like Thomas Alfred Taylor) off by slut-shaming their victims (the way Hillary did to his 12-year-old victim), who can tax our remaining productive sectors the hardest (the way Bernie wants to do), who will allow the most criminal illegal alien invaders from South of the border and ISIS-loving Muslim “rapefugees” into our country to harass and rape and murder and abuse our citizens’ human rights (the way they’re doing in Europe right now).
Hell, you rectum-sucking leftards are a blight on all of humanity; we should deport you to North Korea so that you’ll have everything you’re wanting to do to us done to you instead.
Pinto says
Lonnie,
Truth, facts, justice, and reality all have a conservative bias.
Pinto says
Government “schools” (brainwashing centers) are a greater danger to the children attending them than even the most flamingly fundamentalist church could ever try to be:
http://www.carolinaplotthound.com/Why-not-a-homeschool/
Larry says
Amen,Pinto.
Pinto says
Bernie Sanders: beloved of jackbooted gaystapo goose-stepper thugs everywhere.
http://spectator.org/articles/65512/sanders-vs-all-traditional-marriage-proponents-he%E2%80%99s-coming-get-you-bigots
Pinto says
Hillary Clinton laughs about child rape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4
Lonnie says
Pinto
Do you have factual evidence to support such a statement?
” gaystapo goose-stepper bigots who run those corporations spend it on enabling child molesters.” What truth, facts or reality supports this comment?
I can see from your comments above your desire for “justice” and how well you represent the conservative base. Civitas Institute I’m sure is very proud of their work of helping form your strong opinions.
You’re just the demographics Civitas Institute, the NCGA and Governor McCrory were pandering to when passing this legislation.
Apple, Google, Lowe’s and the NBA will, I’m sure enjoy reading your comments.
Lonnie says
Pinto
I’m going to let you take it from here. You’re doing a better job of explaining this legislation than I ever could.
Pinto says
The writer of Charlotte’s ordnance is a sex offender:
http://keepncsafe.org/charlotte-lgbt-chamber-president/
Lonnie says
Pinto
I believe the person you’re referring was a 20 year old evangelical youth counselor at time of the event some 15 years ago. The event took place at a church outing not a public restroom.
Pinto says
Yeah, tuck your tail between your legs and run from truth, facts, justice, and reality, Lonnie, you rape and child molestation supporter! You leftards would love to do to N.C. what you’ve done to Seattle, wouldn’t you?
http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/man-in-womens-locker-room-cites-right-to-be-there/
Pinto says
Toronto: another place eager to enable sex offenders through tranny privilege laws!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-predator-jailed-after-claiming-to-be-transgender-in-order-to-assault
Larry says
Lonnie,
Why do you keep yapping about the Golden Rule?That’s in the bible and we know you don’t believe that.The definition of morals is… A persons standards of behavior concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.Now we know Liberal Democrats think what ever they feel like doing is acceptable,so therefore they have no morals.
Pinto says
Matthew 18:6
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Pinto says
Goodbye, Lonnie, Apple, Google, Lowe’s and the NBA, and good riddance. All you hateful child-abusing gaystapo goose-stepper bigots can say hi to your lord and master Satan when you join him in the Lake of Fire, which is indeed worse than being drowned with a millstone necklace.
Lonnie says
Why am I hearing the music of “Dueling Banjos” in my head?
Larry says
Because there is nothing else in there.
BBJack says
WEBSTER-On March 30 you started to comment at about 730AM with many additional posts between that time and 530PM. One would think that in a day job as a photographer, there would not be too much time to put out drivel on the Civitas website. Business must be slow there in Blowing Rock. Seems to me that more time should be spent on the business but I assume the HighCountry folks and the Watauga Democrat party do not require your services of late. But the Reverend is coming to Boone and that event will give you some excuse to leave the desktop and drive over to Boone for more entertainment. Good luck.
Larry says
So,that’s what happened to old Lon,I thought the old troll was under a bridge somewhere.The only pictures he takes are some Democrat idiots trying to shut down any conservative from talking.The Democrat party,of which I used to belong is nothing but a collection of misfits,sickos,communists and welfare bums.Old Lon is a perfect example.
Lonnie says
Larry and BBJack
I see you don’t wish to debate the disaster this HB2 legislation, written to pander to theocrats, homophobic bigots and Authortiarians.
The HB2 legislation is unenforceable, protecting the civil rights and liberty of
all is never the mission of Civitas Institute or the Brown Shirts they represent. Right wing Authortiarians are shopping for wedge issues, bigotry, fear and appealing to the worst of humanity are what Civitas Institute specializes in.
Larry and BBJack like good Authortiarians see nothing wrong with personal attacks against a private citizen for using his personal time, in his own home using such time to defend against a false narrative.
Hitler used similar false narratives, scapegoating, racism and anti democratic attacks as his political tools to rise to power.
BBJack, I encourage you to attend the WATAUGA Democratic Plant Sale in June, where you will wittiness dozens of volunteers selling plants to hundreds of citizens. Liberals, believe in kindness, volunteering, justice, equality, knowledge, science, public good, opportunity for all and freedom.
Larry says
I guess that liberal was doing kindness when he was raping the girl and using the Toronto bathroom law as his excuse.Or was that justice,knowledge,or science?
Larry says
I might come to that plant sale to protest like those idiots do every conservative.I have several pots I could bring to beat on so nobody can hear that garbage they rant about.I think that would be fair since you idiots do that at every rally of Republicans.You people are big on freedom of speech as long as it’s your speech.You may not have many there though,they will be signing up for 9 dollar internet connection.It seems Ostupid is going to give them that along with their free phones.
BBJack says
Oh hell! Webster is bringing up Hitler now.He puts out his drivel and starts to call anyone that does not agree with his retoric names. Typical response. He learned from Jerry Wayne. But I have to say that Jerry Wayne does well as a gardener. Wife Pam puts out her picks on occasion. In last mid-rerm election in 2014, all of her picks except for one NC Supreme court judge lost. Seems that she just picks Democrats on her little sheet. Picked “the Bern” on March 15 which shows how wacho the Boone town D’s have become wanting an outright socialist to get the nod over the habitual liar-in-chief.Don’t think I will make it out there to Aunt Pymms Table for the flower show. The time you spend on your desktop is not some personal attack. Just pointing out the number of times you commented on March 30. Maybe you will not have time to attend the upcoming flower show. Chill out, adopt a dog from local Boone rescue and volunteer at the Watauga Soup kitchen.
Lonnie says
BBJack
Thanks for mentioning a wonderful well run out reach for the Homeless of WATAUGA County, the Hospitaliy House. My wife and I try to fix about 10 lbs of meatloaf once a month.
Lonnie says
Larry
Your false narrative, using one or two incidents like the one in Toronto to dehumanize millions of law abiding citizens, depriving them of their full citizenship right and to attempt to humiliate them for political purposes is just what Hitler did with Jews and other minorities. We’ve seen the same behavior here in America during the JIM Crow Era.
Lonnie says
Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.
H.L. Mencken
Lonnie says
This unnecessary foolishness will cost NC Taxpayers lots of needed revenue, it will cost NC businesses customers and it will cost NC Citizens jobs.
You “Good Ole Boys ” better figure out how to walk your poor scheme back.
http://m.wbtv.com/wbtv/db_331816/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=HexC7P3m
Larry says
Just curious Lonnie,if one or two of those isolated rapes was your wife would you feel any different?Knowing you,you would probably call her a racist for reporting it.Like I said before,you are one sick puppy.Keeping pushing this though,it shows people just how deviate Democrats are.
Larry says
Why are you so worried about N.C. losing business?Are you afraid the government checks will dry up?Then all your protesters would have to look for a job and you wouldn’t have any pot bangers to take pictures of.
Larry says
Old Lonnie says two rape incidents,what’s the big deal?Now that’s the real liberal Democrat.Not the one Lonnie talks about.Kindness,justice,public good.The Democrat has become a collection of misfits and racists like Ostupid,Al(l don’t pay no taxes) Sharpton,Jesse Jackson and several others.I expect their next crusade will be it’s o.k. To have sex with animals.What is the public good and justice for the rape victims?Where is the kindness for them?I’am sure they would be blamed for being too sexy by being naked while taking a shower.
Pinto says
Lonnie
I see you don’t wish to debate the failure of your Charlotte ordinance, written to pander to totalitarians, gaystapo goose-steppers, and other parasites. The HB2 legislation is easily enforceable, protecting the civil rights of the patriots Republicans represent. Left wing fascists are shopping for wedge issues; bigotry, fear, and appealing to the worst of humanity are what bullies and bigots like you specialize in.
Lonnie’s a “good” totalitarian who sees nothing wrong with comparing private citizens to Hitler for defending their fellow citizens against his sexually predatory fascist friends’ false narratives. Our current White House occupant used a lot of the very same of Lonnie’s false narratives, scapegoating, racism and anti-democratic attacks as his political tools to rise to power. What leftards like Lonnie *really* believe in is cruelty, enslavement, injustice, pervert privilege, ignorance, sorcery, raping taxpayers, affirmative action, and totalitarianism.
Pinto says
Gentlemen, I was wrong.
H.L. Mencken upon facing his eternal judgment.
(Well, that’s what he said he would say; no way of telling whether he kept his promise.)
Larry says
I can’t remember who said it but it fits Lonnie like a glove.”It’s better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”Lonnie has for sure removed all doubt.
Lonnie says
There’s that “dueling banjos ” music again.
Civitas will soon be selling sheets with the Civitas logo.
Larry says
You certainly removed all doubt there Lonnie.
Pinto says
Yep. Mouth-breathing Lonnie is obsessed with banjos and bathrooms for some reason…
Larry says
I think he needs to go back in the closet,and take his buddies with him.
Larry says
A huge majority of the country is against pervert bathrooms,so why are these large companies and Democrats all for it.Do all these large companies have queer CEO’s?I can understand college kids being for it,because they hear this propaganda everyday in class and they have a herd mentality.They want to be accepted by their friends.You would think a late middle age man like Lonnie would know better.Maybe his is a secret cross dresser and wants in the girls bathroom.Are you a Caitlyn,Lonnie?
Pinto says
Maybe Lonnie wants to be “trans-age” too like this oxygen thief:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
Larry says
Pinto,
That one takes the prize.I don’t know which one is the most crazy.This fruitcake or the people that took him in to raise as a 6 year old girl.Do you think he is living with Lonnie?
Pinto says
Living with Lonnie? Only along with all the other delusions that rattle around rent-free in his otherwise empty skull.
Lonnie says
Intorance and bigotry are very expensive for the State of North Carolina
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article70001502.html
Lonnie says
More lost jobs and customers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/28/news/economy/north-carolina-bathroom-bill-high-point/
Lonnie says
More jobs disappear over conservative Jim Crow mentality.
http://abc11.com/politics/google-ventures-says-it-wont-invest-in-nc-over-hb2/1272382/
Lonnie says
Business may now want to end it’s relationship with a increasingly insane bed partner, the GOP base.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-backlash-to-north-carolinas-lgbt-non-discrimination-ban/475500/
Larry says
You are a Jim Crow idiot.I bet you don’t even know what that is.Never in my life have I seen somebody write the same stupid statements over and over.
Larry says
I could care less about anything CNN says,they have been so biased over the years nobody but you lefturds watch them and MSNBC.I guess being on the side of queers is more important to them than ratings.Does the figure 70% ring any bells with you?That’s how many people in N.C.don’t agree with you and those big companies.Hundreds of small businesses have said they support he Governor.So,we the people could care less what you perverts or those companies say about this.These CEO’S can read polls and they will start walking back their positions because people can quit buying from them and we will.They can take their companies out of N.C. And I say good riddance and it would be nice if they take you too.
Lonnie says
Larry
“UPDATED The leaders of more than 80 major businesses from North Carolina and around the country are calling for the repeal of the new state law that precludes discrimination protection for transgender people.
Their letter made public Tuesday represents a much more extensive list of business opposition to the legislation that Gov. Pat McCrory signed into law last week than has been previously made public. It was organized by Equality N.C. and the Human Rights Campaign.
It came hours after the N.C. Values Coalition claimed to have the support of more than 300 business owners, although it only released 41 names, saying others were afraid of retaliation. The organization released a spreadsheet that it said identified those people by occupation but not by name. Two of the companies listed said the people who signed up were not authorized to do so, and have their own anti-discrimination policies.”
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article68814277.html#storylink=cpy
Pinto says
Pretty much given up all pretense of being anything but the bigoted and hateful extortionists and parasites you are, huh, gaystapo goose-steppers? Oh, PLEASE don’t move your welfare-sucking parasitic “too big to fail” corporations to the population-bleeding bankrupt crime-riddled hellholes of Chicago, Connecticut, or California (or Detroit)! PLEASE don’t take the Charlatan Observer and the Winston Salem Urinal hate rags with you! PLEASE don’t fling us in that there briar patch! Tear out the restroom walls and rape all the women, children, and farm animals you want; ANYTHING but flinging us in that there briar patch!
Larry says
The Values Coalition issued this statement: “North Carolina is consistently one of the top five states in the nation for business and economic growth. Any businesses threatening to not do business in our great state based on dishonest attacks by opponents of women’s and girls’ privacy and safety are only hurting themselves.”
“Thanks to Governor McCrory and the General Assembly’s leadership and immediate action to ensure North Carolinians’ privacy and safety receives maximum protection, North Carolina will continue to flourish. It would be a shame for any companies to miss out on that simply because they believe men should be allowed into locker rooms with girls and women.”
If these companies don’t want 70% of N.C people’s business too bad for them.
Lonnie says
How will children be safer if conservatives are pushing a false narrative as to where pedophiles are likely to molest a child or who is likely to be a pedophile?
Transgender citizens seem to be the least likely people to be pedophiles and public restrooms are the least likely place for such a crime to take place.
http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm
Pinto says
Lonnie,
Since you obviously can’t read, here’s the post that addressed your “issue” again:
Since when do you child abusers of the left care about the general well-being of women and children? Oh right, you don’t: you want “straight” rapists and molesters pretending to “identify” as women to get legal cover to enter girls’ and women’s bathrooms. In fact, you’re probably perverted enough to be one of those “straight” molesters, just like the sex offender who wrote that Charlotte ordinance, aren’t you? Don’t look now, perverts, but your ulterior motives are showing!
Yeah, dudes actually suffering from delusions of femininity are awfully rare; certainly too rare to justify trying to force an entire city’s population to pander to their delusions. I’m sure the number of exhibitionists, voyeurs, molesters, and rapists supporting your oppressive fascist cause greatly outnumbers the tiny smattering of trannies you’re pretending to care about. Such is the way of all fascist leftards: pretend to care a lot about a tiny minority’s minor discomfort in order to justify oppressing the vast majority of ordinary citizens with totalitarian power grabs like the Charlotte ordinance.
Speaking of pretending to care about trannies, anyone remember that freakjob Rachel Dolezal who “identified” as black? Remember how the hate group known as the NAACP dumped her the moment her delusions became an embarrassment to them?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3301274/I-acknowledge-born-white-white-parents-Race-faker-Rachel-Dolezal-FINALLY-admits-white-insists-identifies-black.html
Yeah, what the hate-mongering bigots of the left (like Lonnie) did for “trans-racial” Rachel, it’ll certainly do for the other trannies just as soon as they stop being useful to NAMBLA and GLSEN and all the other goose-stepping child-abusing hate groups who make up the entire support base of Hillary and Bernie’s fascist party.
Remember, goose-stepper: the more you repeat your lies about us, the more we’ll repeat the truth about you.
Larry says
Hey False Narrative,
How do you explain 50% of liberals don’t agree with transgender bathrooms?Are they just fearmongers?Do they get a pass with you because they are voting for the old Commie?Just wondering,know I won’t get a real answer.
Lonnie says
Larry
Popularity doesn’t make an injustice moral, nor a lie truth. Slavery, segregation and laws against interracial marriage were all popular.
Larry says
Marriage doesn’t have anything to do with this.50% of libturds are against you,Lonnie.That means you are dumber than one half of the dumbest people on earth.
Larry says
You shouldn’t talk about morals or the truth,Lonnie.You know nothing about either.
Lonnie says
Larry
Morality is easy, follow the “Golden Rule”. Morality is not about sex, following rules, or cursing, just treat those you deal with the way you would want to be treated if you were in their shoes.
Larry says
Sorry Lonnie,
Morals have rules.There is more to morals than the “Golden Rule?”
Lonnie says
Larry
What are they?
“Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.”
— H.L. Mencken
Larry says
If a guy rapes a young child,you are saying that there is not or should not be a rule against it?Morals have rules to normal people.
Lonnie says
Larry
I’m not sure how you got there, we were discussing morality and ethics not criminal law.
Sure rape should be a crime but that’s not our discussion.
What were the positive family values you learned as a child and where does the Golden Rule fit into governing your personal moral compass?
Larry says
The golden rule is in the Bible and you don’t believe in the Bible so why do you believe in the golden rule?
Pinto says
Judging by what you’ve done unto others, Lonnie, you must either really be a hardcore masochist who wants to be mocked and sued and robbed and raped in the bathroom, or a lying misogynist who doesn’t really believe in the Golden Rule at all. If I were a betting man, I know which way my money would be going.
Why do you hate girls and women so much, Lonnie? When are you going to stop being such a misogynistic bully and bigot?
Pinto says
“Gentlemen, I was wrong.”
—H.L. Mencken upon facing his eternal judgment.
(Well, that’s what he said he would say; no way of telling whether he kept his promise.)