Civitas President Francis De Luca said, “Legislators should carefully consider whether or not North Carolina wants to be seen as a state willing to bow to the will of extortionist tactics to accomplish a social agenda at odds with the will of our citizens. The NCAA and their fellow social justice bullies deserve no say in the laws of our state. This proposed bill could set a dangerous precedent for groups trying to impact legislative actions.”
To arrange an interview with Civitas President Francis De Luca, email Demi Dowdy at demi.dowdy@nccivitas.org or call (919) 747-8064.
Founded in 2005, the Civitas Institute is a Raleigh, NC-based, 501(c)(3) nonprofit policy organization committed to creating a North Carolina whose citizens enjoy liberty and prosperity derived from limited government, personal responsibility and civic engagement.
Chuck says
I have a very difficult time understanding your logic. You claim to be for limited government and freedom but are using government to restrict other people’s freedom. You cannot legislate morality, further, government and religious views do not mix. This absurd issue was created by the so called Christian right to detriment of the citizens of NC.
Rachael says
Amen, Chuck. HB2 was not the will of the people–on either side. It simply put our State in negative political turmoil for a social issue that had not been a major problem here among our people except as spawned by outside political activist groups. Perhaps even now, you are putting forth the same query you asked of our legislators: “whether or not North Carolina wants to be seen as a state willing to bow to the will of (your) extortionist tactics to accomplish a (your) social agenda (and similar ones like photo id) at odds with the will of our citizens.” Isn’t Civitas simply another “group(s) trying to impact legislative actions” within our State? Perhaps now peace will be restored to our beautiful North Carolina. Hats off to our Legislature!
George Zeller says
NCCivtas has strayed far from its mission.
Wilkie says
Let’s be honest here. This whole LGBT rights kick the left has been on for the past year is simply the way that irresponsible liberals justify their own bad behavior. If even homosexuality is normal, then everything is normal, and nothing is abnormal. Thus no one has any right to criticize anything anyone else does. Not even if it has terrible consequences and undermines society. We have an entire generation now that does not see any consequences for just doing whatever one wants, which is why they are the most selfish and self-centered generation in the history of humanity. But, by loudly shouting their support for LGBT folks, who are as abnormal as you can get, they get to not only ignore their own bad behavior, but feel like they are actually civil rights heroes. In fifty years when our grandchildren are picking up the pieces of the civilization we utterly destroyed, they will curse us for our outrageous stupidity. And we will deserve every single curse. We are the worst people this world has ever seen. The liberals for believing this nonsense and the conservatives for not standing up to it.
“WE’RE TIRED OF GAY PROPAGANDA.” Two things have done much to destroy our once great nation…feminism and the gay agenda. America the beautiful? Once Upon a Time we WERE STRONG PATERNAL FIGURES. study the history, know it, cause we are headed downward if we don’t turn this trend around and quickly. Putin knows this and nipped it at the bud. That is why they took control over the situation. The Russian empire will once again rise. He understands what its going to take to make that occur.
georgina says
Wilkie, I hardly know how to respond to your post because it was so full of discrimination, misinformation and hatred. I am an older Christian woman and my faith calls on me to love others and take care of my neighbor; not to judge or discriminate against anyone. It is not up to me to decide who is normal because I am not God. We are all God’s children including women and gays.
I wish that those who are so willing to heap disgust and scorn on gays would first realize that these individuals do not choose to be gay and that it is not a “lifestyle”. I did not choose to be heterosexual; I was born that way. I understand that some fundamentalist Christians believe homosexuality is a sin however that does not give those individuals the right to discriminate against or be abusive to gays.
I have many gay friends whom I love and would do anything to protect. The only difference between them and me is the sex of the person we love. They have families, work, are Democrats or Republican, have dreams, hurt just like you and I and just want to live their lives as human beings. Before you judge, I encourage you to stop and think about the impact your words and actions have on a marginalized group of people. Discriminatory words and actions hurt others. Would you like to be treated like that?
George Zeller says
For Wilkie…guess where these are from?
This relationship “is not only unnatural, but is always productive of deplorable results … [Their children turn out] generally effeminate … [their relationship is] productive of evil.”
State legislators spoke out against such an “abominable” type of relationship, warning that it will eventually “pollute” America.
“It not only is a complete undermining of … the hope of future generations, but it completely begins to see our society break down … It literally is a threat to the nation’s survival in the long run.”
Wilkie says
georgina ~ I believe there are two major reasons so many confessing believers in Christ have allowed themselves to be more rearranged by culture than by the truth of God’s word, drifting into spiritual compromise and even into apostasy (abandoning the truth of one’s faith). This is not a new problem; the apostle Paul urged his readers in Rome, “Don’t let the world around you squeeze you into its own mold, but let God re-mold your minds from within. . .” (Romans 12:2, Phillips).
The bitter fruit of several decades of shallow preaching, teaching and discipleship is that many believers have been especially vulnerable to Satan’s deceptive question to Eve in the Garden of Eden: “Did God really say . . .?” Where is your God-given gift of “discernment?” Christ loves the sinner ~ NOT THE SIN. When Christians ignore or flat-out reject the unmistakably clear biblical statements condemning homosexual relationships, they are playing right into the enemy’s temptation to justify disobedience by making “feelings and perceptions” more important than God’s original design and standards.
As a result of this, there are now two streams of thought on same-sex relationships and behavior, the Traditional View and the Revisionist View. The Revisionist View basically says, “It doesn’t matter what the Bible actually says, it doesn’t mean what 2000 years of church history has said it means, it means what WE want it to say and therefore WE shape it according to OUR comfort zone.”
People are redefining the Bible, gender and marriage according to what will let them do what they want, when they should (in my opinion) be asking the insightful question posed “Am I trying to interpret Scripture in the light of my proclivity, or should I interpret my proclivity in the light of Scripture?” God did not make Adam & Steve. He BEGAN with Adam & EVE.
King James Bible ~ Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Excuse me, but the one who is being “misinformed” here is a zealot who entrenches herself in invincible ignorance.
Wilkie says
George Zeller ~ From all of the pedophile reeking from the Obama administration on down to the conformity and complacency of homosexuality making its way through the labyrinth of Congress ; there is something truly more sinister at work here than one could ever imagine and that is the eventual “extinction:” of the human race. People need to WAKE UP. We ARE heading into “DARK” times. Another way of “dumbing down” America is through news media, television, education and churches. People are being corralled on how to think, and literally re-programmed. This dog and pony show focuses on the myriad ways in which the powers-that-be in the United States have been systematically dumbing down Americans as a society for a very, very, very long time – all by meticulously calculated design. This is NOT an accident. This is an “agenda.”
Pinto says
George Zeller, guess where this is from?
“There was a man who felt entitled to be in the woman restroom, because he knew no one would say anything. There were 20-25 people by the time I left, who were scared and uncomfortable by his ominous presence. And the only thing stopping us, was our fear of political correctness and that the media has told us we don’t know what gender is anymore. I never want to be in the position again. I’m not asking for permission to tell transgender people to get out my bathroom. I need to know it’s ok to tell a man, who looks like a man, to get…out. Gender just can’t be a feeling. There has to be science to it. DNA, genitals, amount of Sephora make up on your face, pick your poison, but as a very progressive woman…I’m sorry it can’t just be a feeling when there’s but a mere suggestion of a door with a peep hole separating your eyes from my…or my children’s genitals.”
Shame on you for advocating in favor of child abuse with your racist sophistry, George.
Tim Peck says
What does any of this have to do with gays or Christians or the Bible?
Ken says
Some people are confused, how did HB2 limit people’s rights? Perhaps someone will make the case that a man has a right to enter a women’s bathroom or that a woman has a right to enter a men’s bathroom. If you make that case then you are arguing that bathrooms should not be divided up by the biological sex of the people using them, but by some other reason. But if one makes the argument that dividing up by biological sex violates someone’s right than what possible justification is there for dividing up by any other reason? Whatever reason you propose will end up violating someone rights.
So what the opposers of HB2 are really proposing is that all bathrooms (and other like facilities) should not be divided up at all and that all such facilities MUST be common to anyone that wants to use them. Its the complete disingenuousness on the part of the opposers that really make this an issue at all. Bad!
Pinto says
@Tim Peck: mostly only what the tranny-panderers have wanted it to have to do with any of those things. Currently, they’re screaming bloody murder at Cooper for, among other things, accepting HB142’s temporary continuation of HB2’s moratorium on their fascistic attempts (like the Charlotte ordinance) to force private businesses and organizations to play along with tranny delusions.